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beserk · Sep 16, 2008, 05:09 PM // 17:09

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Originally Posted by t00115577

LOL i have to post in this epic thread, beserk, you havent a fking clue about anything, that build wouldn't run you anywhere worth running (as they have conds and hexes put on you)

Age's build is a pretty solid build, decent at running most places like sanctum cay and such. Only the heavy runs like droks would beat that one.

Having 1000+ health, just means it will take you an extra 5 seconds to die, gg. If a runner pinged that build id lol and leave group.

Yawn another troll, you are a typical mindless idiot who just follows ages build and doesnt question WHY it works read the whole thread and use your brain.

And you shouldnt even be posting since you havent said anything that would actually help improve my build.

Its funny how the trolls ignore my earlier posts challenging ages build and just come in here and say 'WTF OMGZ U DONT TAKE AGES BUILD THEN U SUCKZ.'

Hes nobody special you all talk about him like hes god hes a person like anyone else and i question the build he gave WITH REASONS.

the savage nornbear · Sep 16, 2008, 05:11 PM // 17:11

It works because it has permanent speed boost, condition removal, hex removal, self heal, bla bla bla. Yours doesn't work because it lacks most of the above.

beserk · Sep 16, 2008, 05:14 PM // 17:14

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Originally Posted by Khasar

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WTFZ OMGZ U DONT USE MY GOD AGE's BUILD? HAHHA U SUCKS
Ya ya I'm sure you've run the Desert Tour a few times or maybe to Piken Square so you think its pretty pro but suz cause its just not.

fixed.

And i have ran alot more places than those with this, just came here to get feedback from intelligent ppl

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Originally Posted by the savage nornbear

It works because it has permanent speed boost, condition removal, hex removal, self heal, bla bla bla. Yours doesn't work because it lacks most of the above.

Wrong mine has those.

Dawn Angelheart · Sep 16, 2008, 05:15 PM // 17:15

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Originally Posted by beserk

Hes nobody special you all talk about him like hes god hes a person like anyone else and i question the build he gave WITH REASONS.

you didnt question. you made out yours was 1000.0000% better.
and people joined. explaining why it wasnt.
and his was better than yours.
i dont see fault in his build really.
it looks solid besides the droks run.
hes not a god. he EVEN said the build WAS NOT HIS OWN.
thats just being honest mate.
Build a bridge.. and get over it.

Khasar · Sep 16, 2008, 05:16 PM // 17:16

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Originally Posted by beserk

you have a stupid elite [charging strike] for running as it doesnt last nearly as long as [sprint] AND IT ENDS IF U USE A SKILL??!? LOL! it also involves striking (somehting im not doing hence the title RUNNING). i dont even need to compare my elite to yours since [sprint] owns it for the purpose i am using it for.

I am not even going to bother with your non elites since your elite sucked enough.

Also atleast my build has BALANCE between energy cost and adren...whereas youd be exhausted in no time seeing as your elite would cancel all your skills and youd have to keep spamming them.

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Originally Posted by beserk

i question the build he gave WITH REASONS.

Ya... just not good ones.

Puddin Cheeks · Sep 16, 2008, 05:18 PM // 17:18

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Originally Posted by beserk

fixed.

And i have ran alot more places than those with this, just came here to get feedback from intelligent ppl

In all honesty, if you are wanting a running build as profession, it goes like this.

15 shadow arts
nothing else matters

[glyph of swiftness][deadly paradox][Shadow Form][I am unstoppable][Dwarven Stability][Dark Escape][Dash][Shadow refuge] or [feigned neutrality]

Any noob can run this just about anywhere, i did a droks run with something similar to it.

beserk · Sep 16, 2008, 05:21 PM // 17:21

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Originally Posted by Dawn Angelheart

you didnt question. you made out yours was 1000.0000% better.
and people joined. explaining why it wasnt.
and his was better than yours.
i dont see fault in his build really.
it looks solid besides the droks run.
hes not a god. he EVEN said the build WAS NOT HIS OWN.
thats just being honest mate.
Build a bridge.. and get over it.

I do feel my build is better than the one he gave me for all the reasons i gave in my first few posts and i stand by it.

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Originally Posted by Puddin Cheeks

In all honesty, if you are wanting a running build as profession, it goes like this.

15 shadow arts
nothing else matters

[glyph of swiftness][deadly paradox][Shadow Form][I am unstoppable][Dwarven Stability][Dark Escape][Dash][Shadow refuge] or [feigned neutrality]

Any noob can run this just about anywhere, i did a droks run with something similar to it.

Yeah i know sins are better runners than us warriors but i dont have a sin and wanted to make one for my prof.

GWEXTREEMFAN · Sep 16, 2008, 05:30 PM // 17:30

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Originally Posted by beserk

I do feel my build is better than the one he gave me for all the reasons i gave in y first few posts and i stand by it.

Yeah i know sins are better runners than us warriors but i dont have a sin and wanted to make one for my prof.

eh lol
you can run this build as warrior too only one skill wont work but it works the same just with some breaks inbetween xD

Grieve Logdan · Sep 16, 2008, 05:30 PM // 17:30

berserk,

Couple questions.

1. What areas do you want the build to be able to run? ( I will tell you now that if you say, "any area." You are looking at the wrong primary profession.)
2. Are you limited by which secondary classes you can use? If so which ones do you have? (I am assuming you want a build using a warrior as the primary primary profession.)

Puddin Cheeks · Sep 16, 2008, 05:31 PM // 17:31

Well my chest running W/A build goes like this.

I used this to run raisu palace back in the day before the perma-sin.

[shadow form][death's charge][dwarven stability][dash]{[dark escape]or[sprint]}[endure pain][shadow refuge][signet of stamina]

it is okay and has its uses in lots of areas, not the best running build but good around hexes and casters with gaps for cooldowns.

make sure to use an enchanting weapon though and the dark escape half damage does come in handy.

beserk · Sep 16, 2008, 05:32 PM // 17:32

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Originally Posted by Grieve Logdan

berserk,

Couple questions.

1. What areas do you want the build to be able to run? ( I will tell you now that if you say, "any area." You are looking at the wrong primary profession.)
2. Are you limited by which secondary classes you can use? If so which ones do you have? (I am assuming you want a build using a warrior as the primary primary profession.)

Well i can already run most of tryia with it havent tried the shiverpeaks and thats my focus atm.

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Originally Posted by Puddin Cheeks

Well my chest running W/A build goes like this.

I used this to run raisu palace back in the day before the perma-sin.

[shadow form][death's charge][dwarven stability][dash]{[dark escape]or[sprint]}[endure pain][shadow refuge][signet of stamina]

it is okay and has its uses in lots of areas, not the best running build but good around hexes and casters with gaps for cooldowns.

make sure to use an enchanting weapon though and the dark escape half damage does come in handy.

Cool, i might have to give that a try then ^^

Puddin Cheeks · Sep 16, 2008, 05:36 PM // 17:36

in shiverpeaks, [I am unstoppable] is a must

red bean cakes, birthday cupcakes, etc, if you want to drop the speed buff skills. just an FYI

t00115577 · Sep 16, 2008, 06:30 PM // 18:30

I cant help but think that the only reason you posted this awful build is so ppl would flame you, and then you could troll after every post as your doing.

And btw so everyone knows, he is editing build in OP as thread goes on. So i reckon this is just troll bait

/close pls

EDIT.

BTW i did read whole thread, and any 7 skills with a speed boost as 8th can run the places you have run so far, its not an achievment. You will run nowhere hard without strong hex/cond removal

beserk · Sep 16, 2008, 06:53 PM // 18:53

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Originally Posted by t00115577

I cant help but think that the only reason you posted this awful build is so ppl would flame you, and then you could troll after every post as your doing.

And btw so everyone knows, he is editing build in OP as thread goes on. So i reckon this is just troll bait

/close pls

EDIT.

BTW i did read whole thread, and any 7 skills with a speed boost as 8th can run the places you have run so far, its not an achievment. You will run nowhere hard without strong hex/cond removal

Im doing that because im IMPROVING my build based on the feedback i get, i always do that when asking for help with builds

. And for the last time it has cond removal use your eyes.

Grieve Logdan · Sep 16, 2008, 06:59 PM // 18:59

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Originally Posted by beserk

Well i can already run most of tryia with it havent tried the shiverpeaks and thats my focus atm.

Well if Shiverpeaks (I'm assuming Southern) is your goal, I would say the build you have right now would get raped in a number of areas. Bonetti's & To the limit are good together, but only work with you are either (A) tanking or (B) running through a good size melee mob. Both of which you should plan on avoiding. The massive amounts of HP work in most areas of tyria, but in SS (Southern Shiverpeaks) it will mean almost nothing. Dropping your HP to around 700 to 900 will be fine. You will however need either Hex & Condition Removal & decent healing as seen in the build Age's posted or [Shadow Form] with some back up skills like Puddin Cheeks recently posted. Also as Puddin Cheeks mentioned, ["I am Unstoppable"] is an essential skill.

So Here are two build suggestions.

[build prof=W/Mo name="Runner #1" box str=12 prot=12][Sprint][Enraging Charge][Divert Hexes][Mending Touch][Remove Hex]["I am Unstoppable"][Endure Pain][Signet of Stamina][/build]

[Endure Pain] can be subbed for a straight heal like [Words of Comfort].

[build prof=W/A name="Runner #2" box str=12 shadow=12][Dash][Sprint][Shadow Form][Feigned Neutrality][Death's Charge]["I am Unstoppable"][Endure Pain][Signet of Stamina][/build]

EDIT: Sprint reads as a 20 sec recharge here. In game, it is actually a 15 sec recharge.

Of course both of these can be modified, but I think the basic concept of both is there.

Another aspect to consider is what insignia & runes you have on your armor because that can affect how well you can run.

MercenaryKnight · Sep 16, 2008, 07:09 PM // 19:09

The point of Charging strike was a permanent speed boost in one skill. Instead of using sprint and enraging charge/ charge to alternate speed boosts. Defy pain is never an elite to use. In any area where you can get away with using defy pain, it isn't that hard of an area to begin with.

[build=OQoSE5KTdFGW0ktX4kbFBADWA]
[build=OAcR8ZSnhHJNbF8uEAYCqBC]

First one is just a droks run w/d build and the other is any/a build. Copied them off pvx wiki.

beserk · Sep 16, 2008, 07:10 PM // 19:10

Ive got all survivors, vitaes and a superior vigor rune.

12 str 12 shadow arts r10 norn

[Shadow form][dash][dark escape][sprint][i am unstoppable][feigned neutrality][feel no pain][signet of stamina]

I might just try this out. though i may have to replace my survivors with radiants.

Should i be able to run anywhere with this build?

MercenaryKnight · Sep 16, 2008, 07:20 PM // 19:20

Only thing I would suggest is deadly paradox, being able to recharge your shadow form quicker is helpful in a lot of harder areas. Well, you should be able to run anywhere as long as you can break aggro during shadow form downtimes.

But since you can't keep it up permanently their could be some areas where it will not work. Think ice dome would be hard if not impossible since I don't know if theirs any areas quickly enough to break aggro and wait for recharge.

beserk · Sep 16, 2008, 07:30 PM // 19:30

what if i replaced [deadly paradox] with [dash] since i have 2 running skills already in that build?

Damian979 · Sep 16, 2008, 08:44 PM // 20:44

If you plan on running just to get from point A to point B then I would say sure, take whatever works for you. If you plan on running people for money you have to ask two questions: is it fast? is it reliable?

Shadow form running for a warrior fits neither of these criteria. There are tremendous cooldowns waiting for SF. Mobs don't spawn in exactly the same spot every time and could leave you in full aggro at a very bad moment. Not to mention it is very energy intensive. Just [deadly paradox] and [shadow form] alone require more than a warrior's base energy

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Originally Posted by berserk

Should i be able to run anywhere with this build?

One thing many people don't (or won't) realize is shadowform isn't godmode. There are many many things that hit through shadowform from e-denial, to knockdowns, to enchant strips that cause instant death. Sins can do it because both [shadow form] and with [dwarven stability], [dark escape] can stay up permanently leaving room for adverse utility by the way of shouts, shadowsteps, and cover enchantments. Even then, there are places that sf just gets owned.

You should realize though that people in this thread aren't saying "I love Age's build because he's so dreamy and I want to have his baby". They agree that it is better for running.

No it isn't the mirror image of what I normally use with my W/, but I agree that his build is more adept at dealing with your more difficult runs with the best tools available to a warrior.